#1076

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 16:04
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An Ex-FBI Agent Explains What's Next for the Russia Investigation
"Facts are stubborn things, and they tend to persist even when people don't want them to be there."

"I fear Trump has awakened a sleeping giant in the FBI," another former agent said.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/an-ex...mpaign=interest


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#1077

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 16:48
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When the world is led by a child
by David Brooks
At certain times Donald Trump has seemed like a budding authoritarian, a corrupt Nixon, a rabble-rousing populist or a big-business corporatist.
But as Trump has settled into his White House role, he has given a series of long interviews, and when you study the transcripts it becomes clear that fundamentally he is none of these things.
At base, Trump is an infantalist. There are three tasks that most mature adults have sort of figured out by the time they hit 25. Trump has mastered none of them. Immaturity is becoming the dominant note of his presidency, lack of self-control his leitmotif.

First, most adults have learned to sit still. But mentally, Trump is still a seven-year-old boy who is bouncing around the classroom. Trump's answers in these interviews are not very long – 200 words at the high end – but he will typically flit through four or five topics before ending up with how unfair the press is to him.
His inability to focus his attention makes it hard for him to learn and master facts. He is ill informed about his own policies and tramples his own talking points. It makes it hard to control his mouth. On an impulse, he will promise a tax reform when his staff has done little of the actual work.

Second, most people of drinking age have achieved some accurate sense of themselves, some internal criteria to measure their own merits and demerits. But Trump seems to need perpetual outside approval to stabilise his sense of self, so he is perpetually desperate for approval, telling heroic fabulist tales about himself.
"In a short period of time I understood everything there was to know about healthcare," he told Time. "A lot of the people have said that, some people said it was the single best speech ever made in that chamber," he told The Associated Press, referring to his joint session speech.

By Trump's own account, he knows more about aircraft carrier technology than the Navy. According to his interview with The Economist, he invented the phrase "priming the pump" (even though it was famous by 1933). Trump is not only trying to deceive others. His falsehoods are attempts to build a world in which he can feel good for an instant and comfortably deceive himself.
He is thus the all-time record-holder of the Dunning-Kruger effect, the phenomenon in which the incompetent person is too incompetent to understand his own incompetence. Trump thought he'd be celebrated for firing James Comey. He thought his press coverage would grow wildly positive once he won the nomination. He is perpetually surprised because reality does not comport with his fantasies.

Third, by adulthood most people can perceive how others are thinking. For example, they learn subtle arts such as false modesty so they won't be perceived as obnoxious.
But Trump seems to have not yet developed a theory of mind. Other people are black boxes that supply either affirmation or disapproval. As a result, he is weirdly transparent. He wants people to love him, so he is constantly telling interviewers that he is widely loved. In Trump's telling, every meeting was scheduled for 15 minutes but his guests stayed two hours because they liked him so much.

Which brings us to the reports that Trump betrayed an intelligence source and leaked secrets to his Russian visitors. From all we know so far, Trump didn't do it because he is a Russian agent, or for any malevolent intent. He did it because he is sloppy, because he lacks all impulse control, and above all because he is a nine-year-old boy desperate for the approval of those he admires.
The Russian leak story reveals one other thing, the dangerousness of a hollow man.
Our institutions depend on people who have enough engraved character traits to fulfil their assigned duties. But there is perpetually less to Trump than it appears. When we analyse a president's utterances, we tend to assume that there is some substantive process behind the words, that it's part of some strategic intent.

But Trump's statements don't necessarily come from anywhere, lead anywhere or have a permanent reality beyond his wish to be liked at any given instant.
We've got this perverse situation in which the vast analytic powers of the entire world are being spent trying to understand a guy whose thoughts are often just six fireflies beeping randomly in a jar.
"We badly want to understand Trump, to grasp him," David Roberts writes in Vox. "It might give us some sense of control, or at least an ability to predict what he will do next. But what if there's nothing to understand? What if there is no there there?"

And out of that void comes a carelessness that quite possibly betrayed an intelligence source, and endangered a country.
http://news.united.agronaplo.hu/link/479...-led-by-a-child

The Infant-In-Chief is too incompetent to realize how incompetent his incompetence is!!



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#1078

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 17:11
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Trump Admits To Sharing ‘Facts’ With Top Russian Officials
President Trump early Tuesday admitted that he shared “facts” with Russian officials, a day after the Washington Post and others reported that the President passed on highly classified info to the Russian foreign minister and Russia’s ambassador to U.S. during a meeting in the Oval Office.

Trump said he had the “absolute right” to share the information.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/tr...ssian-officials

Zwar nicht "absolute", aber das Recht hat er. Natuerlich. Das heisst aber noch lange nicht dass dies auch klug und weise sei. Schliesslich kann er auch die Nuclear Launch Codes per Twitter verbreiten. Ganz legal.
Die alliierten Intelligence Services werden sich aber nun wohl zweimal ueberlegen, welche Informationen sie an die USA weiterleiten. Well done, Trumpsky!


Es geht schon los:
European official to AP: Country might stop sharing intel with U.S.
A senior European intelligence official told the Associated Press that his country might stop sharing information with the United States if it confirms that President Donald Trump shared classified details with Russian officials.
Such sharing "could be a risk for our sources," the official said.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/16...238442?lo=ap_b1

Ex-acting CIA chief: Foreign countries may 'pause' sharing intel with us
Mike Morell, former acting CIA director during the Obama administration, said Tuesday that foreign countries that share intelligence with the United States might "pause and question whether they should" after President Donald Trump reportedly shared sensitive information with Russian officials.

"Foreign countries share intelligence with the United States regularly, and now they're going to take pause and question whether they should do that if they're afraid the information they're providing could be shared with an adversary of ours and theirs," Morell told "CBS This Morning."
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/16...238437?lo=ap_b1



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#1079

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 18:56
von mbockstette | 12.540 Beiträge

Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1067
McMaster: "The Story That Came Out Tonight As Reported Is False"
" I was in the room. It didn't happen."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2...d_is_false.html


Diese Regierung wird Dich noch öfters Lügen strafen:

Weißes Haus - Trump gibt Weitergabe von Informationen an Russland zu

Donald Trump hat bestätigt, dem russischen Außenminister Informationen zum Terrorismus weitergereicht zu haben.

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/do...-a-1147933.html


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#1080

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in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 19:13
von nahal | 24.645 Beiträge

Zitat von mbockstette im Beitrag #1079
Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1067
McMaster: "The Story That Came Out Tonight As Reported Is False"
" I was in the room. It didn't happen."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2...d_is_false.html


Diese Regierung wird Dich noch öfters Lügen strafen:

Weißes Haus - Trump gibt Weitergabe von Informationen an Russland zu

Donald Trump hat bestätigt, dem russischen Außenminister Informationen zum Terrorismus weitergereicht zu haben.

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/do...-a-1147933.html


"Informationen zum Terrorismus"
"The president in no way undermined sources or methods in the course of this conversation,” he said, adding that the information could be found in "open-source reporting."


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#1081

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 19:28
von mbockstette | 12.540 Beiträge

Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1080
Zitat von mbockstette im Beitrag #1079
Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1067
McMaster: "The Story That Came Out Tonight As Reported Is False"
" I was in the room. It didn't happen."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2...d_is_false.html


Diese Regierung wird Dich noch öfters Lügen strafen:

Weißes Haus - Trump gibt Weitergabe von Informationen an Russland zu

Donald Trump hat bestätigt, dem russischen Außenminister Informationen zum Terrorismus weitergereicht zu haben.

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/do...-a-1147933.html


"Informationen zum Terrorismus"
"The president in no way undermined sources or methods in the course of this conversation,” he said, adding that the information could be found in "open-source reporting."


Zitat dazu: "The president wasn’t even aware of where this information came from,” he (security adviser H.R. McMaster) said . “He wasn’t briefed on the source."

http://thehill.com/policy/national-secur...lly-appropriate


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#1082

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 19:34
von nahal | 24.645 Beiträge

Zitat von mbockstette im Beitrag #1081
Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1080
Zitat von mbockstette im Beitrag #1079
Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1067
McMaster: "The Story That Came Out Tonight As Reported Is False"
" I was in the room. It didn't happen."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2...d_is_false.html


Diese Regierung wird Dich noch öfters Lügen strafen:

Weißes Haus - Trump gibt Weitergabe von Informationen an Russland zu

Donald Trump hat bestätigt, dem russischen Außenminister Informationen zum Terrorismus weitergereicht zu haben.

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/do...-a-1147933.html


"Informationen zum Terrorismus"
"The president in no way undermined sources or methods in the course of this conversation,” he said, adding that the information could be found in "open-source reporting."


Zitat dazu: "The president wasn’t even aware of where this information came from,” he (security adviser H.R. McMaster) said . “He wasn’t briefed on the source."

http://thehill.com/policy/national-secur...lly-appropriate




Ja steht dort:
"McMaster disputed the “premise” of media reports that Trump put intelligence sources in jeopardy by disclosing the information, saying it was “wholly appropriate” for the president to discuss. "

Diese Skandalisierung jeden Furzes ist langsam ermüdend.

By the way:
Der Präsident entscheidet, was geheim ist und was nicht.


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#1083

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 19:37
von nahal | 24.645 Beiträge

Da wir alle so objektiv sind:

warum sagst du nichts dazu, dass inzwischen herausgekommen ist, dass nicht Russland sondern ein Demokrat-Mitarbeiter der Clinton-leaker war?
Passt nicht in die Legendenbildung?


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#1084

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 19:40
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Wenn der Kreml versucht Tumpsky zur Hilfe zu kommen:

...Fast zeitgleich mit Trumps Äußerungen hat die russische Regierung abgestritten, Geheimdienstinformationen erhalten zu haben. "Das ist kein Thema für uns, es ist der neueste Unsinn", sagte ein Kreml-Sprecher. "Es ist völliger Unsinn, kein Thema, nicht für ein Dementi, nicht für eine Bestätigung."

:-)))

Dann jedoch die andere Seite der Medaille:

...Den amerikanischen Zeitungsberichten zufolge waren die Informationen so streng vertraulich, dass sie nicht einmal mit Verbündeten geteilt wurden. Es soll sich dabei um Angaben handeln, die ein Verbündeter der USA im Kampf gegen den IS zur Verfügung gestellt habe. Trump soll auch den Ort genannt haben, von dem aus der "befreundete Geheimdienst" das hochsensible Material zum "Islamischen Staat" gesammelt hatte. Damit hat er die Quelle möglicherweise in große Gefahr gebracht.
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/do...-a-1147933.html


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#1085

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 19:45
von mbockstette | 12.540 Beiträge

Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1083
Da wir alle so objektiv sind:

warum sagst du nichts dazu, dass inzwischen herausgekommen ist, dass nicht Russland sondern ein Demokrat-Mitarbeiter der Clinton-leaker war?
Passt nicht in die Legendenbildung?


Ist das ein weiterer Furz, der mich interessieren müsste? Aber bitte schön, an wen hat denn der demokratische Leaker seine Infos zur Veröffentlichung weitergegeben?


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#1086

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 19:53
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Erick Erickson: The Real Problem Is Trump, Not The Leakers
The conservative pundit says he knows who leaked the news about the president giving confidential intel to Russia.

Conservative pundit Erick Erickson is vouching for the reliability of a least one source who revealed to Washington Post reporters that President Donald Trump disclosed “highly classified information” while meeting with Russian officials last week.

Erickson knows one of the sources and supports their decision to go to the media, he wrote Tuesday in a blog post for his website, The Resurgent.
“This is a real problem and I treat this story very seriously because I know just how credible, competent, and serious — as well as seriously pro-Trump, at least one of the sources is,” Erickson wrote.
“You can call these sources disloyal, traitors, or whatever you want,” he added. “But please ask yourself a question — if the President, through inexperience and ignorance, is jeopardizing our national security and will not take advice or corrective action, what other means are available to get the President to listen and recognize the error of his ways?”

Erickson wrote that people close to the president find him too insecure to take constructive criticism as anything other than a personal attack. So sources have gone to the media in the hopes that “the intense blowback” may force Trump to recognize his errors.

And in this instance, where Trump’s careless boasting has put at risk both U.S. national security and an ally’s intelligence asset, there’s simply too much at stake not to speak out.
I am told that what the President did is actually far worse than what is being reported,” Erickson said. “The President does not seem to realize or appreciate that his bragging can undermine relationships with our allies and with human intelligence sources. He also does not seem to appreciate that his loose lips can get valuable assets in the field killed.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/eric...kushpmg00000009


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#1087

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 20:08
von mbockstette | 12.540 Beiträge

Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1082
Zitat von mbockstette im Beitrag #1081
Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1080
Zitat von mbockstette im Beitrag #1079
Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1067
McMaster: "The Story That Came Out Tonight As Reported Is False"
" I was in the room. It didn't happen."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2...d_is_false.html


Diese Regierung wird Dich noch öfters Lügen strafen:

Weißes Haus - Trump gibt Weitergabe von Informationen an Russland zu

Donald Trump hat bestätigt, dem russischen Außenminister Informationen zum Terrorismus weitergereicht zu haben.

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/do...-a-1147933.html


"Informationen zum Terrorismus"
"The president in no way undermined sources or methods in the course of this conversation,” he said, adding that the information could be found in "open-source reporting."


Zitat dazu: "The president wasn’t even aware of where this information came from,” he (security adviser H.R. McMaster) said . “He wasn’t briefed on the source."

http://thehill.com/policy/national-secur...lly-appropriate


Ja steht dort:
"McMaster disputed the “premise” of media reports that Trump put intelligence sources in jeopardy by disclosing the information, saying it was “wholly appropriate” for the president to discuss. "

Diese Skandalisierung jeden Furzes ist langsam ermüdend.

By the way: Der Präsident entscheidet, was geheim ist und was nicht.


Das Dumme daran ist nur, dass der Präsident gar nicht weiß, weil nicht ge_briefed, was geheim bleiben sollte und was nicht. Und ob der Präsident nach Gutdünken darüber befinden kann, was geheim ist und nicht, das steht wo geschrieben, etwa In Trumps Handbuch: "Making America Great Again"?


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#1088

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in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 20:12
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Breaking News:
Israel provided the intelligence that President Trump shared with Russia, officials said. The White House has defended the disclosure.
-New York Times-

Da werden sich die Intelligence Leute in Israel -die wahren Geheimdienstler- aber jetzt bestimmt freuen.



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#1089

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 20:23
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NYT: Classified Info Trump Shared With Russia Came From Israel
The highly classified information President Donald Trump shared with top Russian diplomats last week was provided to the United States by Israel, the New York Times reported Tuesday.
The Times cited two unnamed U.S. officials, one current and one former, who it described as “familiar with how the United States obtained the information.”

On Monday, the Washington Post reported that Trump had shared highly classified information on an Islamic State plot with the Russian ambassador to the United States and the Russian foreign minister.
The U.S. officials, the Times reported, said “at least some of the details that the United States has about the plot came from the Israelis.”
The Post reported Monday that the source of the intelligence, which it did not name, “has previously voiced frustration with Washington’s inability to safeguard sensitive information related to Iraq and Syria.”
On Tuesday, one unnamed senior European intelligence official told the Associated Press that his country might stop sharing intelligence with the United States if it confirmed that Trump had shared classified information with Russia.

Trump admitted on Twitter Tuesday that he shared certain “facts” with Russia — undercutting his own administration’s talking points. And National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster did not deny in a press briefing Tuesday that Trump had shared classified information provided to the U.S. by an ally.

In the waning days of the Obama administration, Israeli outlets reported in January, American intelligence officials warned their Israeli counterparts to use caution when sharing intelligence with the Trump administration. Haaretz reported that concerns included “suspicions of unreported ties between President-elect Donald Trump, or his associates, and the government of Vladimir Putin in Moscow.”
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/tr...n-source-israel



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#1090

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 20:38
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Pay Trump bribes here' sign projected onto Trump's DC hotel
Visitors to the Trump International Hotel in Washington were greeted with a provocative message Monday night: "Pay Trump bribes here."

Artist and filmmaker Robin Bell said he projected those words onto the hotel's facade from a van across the street, hoping to call attention to accusations that President Donald Trump is allowing foreign leaders to pay for access by staying at a Trump property just a few blocks from the White House.
"It's a pretty clear cut example of impropriety," Bell said in a phone interview. "This is not like politics as usual. The rules and the lines are being pushed so far and this seemed to be so clear to me."
Bell also projected the text of the emoluments clause, which prohibits US officials from accepting foreign gifts, onto the hotel's facade, alongside images of the Turkish and Russian flags.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/16/politics/t...tel-projection/

https://scontent.ford1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v...3ec&oe=59B36AB2
https://scontent.ford1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v...ed3&oe=59B32472


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#1091

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 21:14
von mbockstette | 12.540 Beiträge

Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #1088
Breaking News:
Israel provided the intelligence that President Trump shared with Russia, officials said. The White House has defended the disclosure.
-New York Times-

Da werden sich die Intelligence Leute in Israel -die wahren Geheimdienstler- aber jetzt bestimmt freuen.


By the way: Der Präsident entscheidet, was geheim ist und was nicht. :-))

Nahal haut sich vermutlich vor lauter Lachen schon auf die Schenkel. :-)))


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#1092

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 21:17
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Zitat von mbockstette im Beitrag #1091
Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #1088
Breaking News:
Israel provided the intelligence that President Trump shared with Russia, officials said. The White House has defended the disclosure.
-New York Times-

Da werden sich die Intelligence Leute in Israel -die wahren Geheimdienstler- aber jetzt bestimmt freuen.


By the way: Der Präsident entscheidet, was geheim ist und was nicht. :-))

Nahal haut sich vermutlich vor lauter Lachen schon auf die Schenkel. :-)))



Sure. Holzkopf eben, der kann nicht anders.


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#1093

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 21:20
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Israel wants White House to explain U.S. official's Western Wall comment
Israel wants the White House to explain why a U.S. diplomat preparing President Donald Trump's visit to Jerusalem said Judaism's Holy Western Wall in its Old City is part of the Israeli-occupied West Bank, an Israeli official said on Monday.

Israel considers all of Jerusalem as its indivisible capital, a claim that is not recognized internationally, and the Western Wall - the holiest prayer site for Jews - is part of territory it captured in the 1967 Middle East war.

Israel's Channel 2 reported that during a planning meeting between U.S. and Israeli officials, the Israelis were told that Trump's visit to the Western Wall was private, Israel did not have jurisdiction in the area and that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was not welcome to accompany Trump there.

Trump's administration has been sending mixed messages in its dealings with a right-wing Israeli government that had hoped for a more sympathetic attitude from the Republican president after a rocky relationship with his Democratic predecessor, Barack Obama.
"The statement that the Western Wall is in an area in the West Bank was received with shock," said the official in Netanyahu's office.
"We are convinced that this statement is contrary to the policy of President Trump ... Israel has made contact with the U.S. on this matter," the official said.

The White House did not respond to a request for comment.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel...y-idUSKCN18B2K2


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#1094

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 21:23
von mbockstette | 12.540 Beiträge

Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #1092
Zitat von mbockstette im Beitrag #1091
Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #1088
Breaking News:
Israel provided the intelligence that President Trump shared with Russia, officials said. The White House has defended the disclosure.
-New York Times-

Da werden sich die Intelligence Leute in Israel -die wahren Geheimdienstler- aber jetzt bestimmt freuen.


By the way: Der Präsident entscheidet, was geheim ist und was nicht. :-))

Nahal haut sich vermutlich vor lauter Lachen schon auf die Schenkel. :-)))



Sure. Holzkopf eben, der kann nicht anders.


Wo bleibt Dein Verständnis für Logik? Können, könnte er schon, nur wollen hat er nicht dürfen. Oder mit anderen Worten: Er ist linientreu.



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#1095

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 21:42
von nahal | 24.645 Beiträge

Zitat von mbockstette im Beitrag #1085
Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1083
Da wir alle so objektiv sind:

warum sagst du nichts dazu, dass inzwischen herausgekommen ist, dass nicht Russland sondern ein Demokrat-Mitarbeiter der Clinton-leaker war?
Passt nicht in die Legendenbildung?


Ist das ein weiterer Furz, der mich interessieren müsste? Aber bitte schön, an wen hat denn der demokratische Leaker seine Infos zur Veröffentlichung weitergegeben?

Wikileaks.


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#1096

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 21:58
von mbockstette | 12.540 Beiträge

Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1095
Zitat von mbockstette im Beitrag #1085
Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1083
Da wir alle so objektiv sind:

warum sagst du nichts dazu, dass inzwischen herausgekommen ist, dass nicht Russland sondern ein Demokrat-Mitarbeiter der Clinton-leaker war?
Passt nicht in die Legendenbildung?


Ist das ein weiterer Furz, der mich interessieren müsste? Aber bitte schön, an wen hat denn der demokratische Leaker seine Infos zur Veröffentlichung weitergegeben?

Wikileaks.


Who the f..k is wikileaks? Am Anfang hielt ich wikileaks noch für bemerkenswert, heute halte es für bedenklich.
Wikileaks leaks to much discretion in only one direction. It smells.


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#1097

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 22:25
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U.S. lawmakers want Trump to explain giving intelligence to Russia
President Donald Trump came under pressure on Tuesday from U.S. lawmakers, including some of his fellow Republicans, to give a fuller explanation of why he revealed highly sensitive intelligence information to senior Russian officials at a White House meeting last week.

The Senate Intelligence Committee has asked the White House for more information about reports that Trump gave intelligence information to the Russians, a spokeswoman for the panel said.
Congressional investigators are expected to seek copies of any notes taken during the meeting, a congressional source said.

U.S. Representative Barbara Comstock, a Republican, called for immediate classified briefings for lawmakers "so that Congress can at least know as much as Russian leaders."
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tr...s-idUSKCN18C19Y


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#1098

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in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 22:30
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More Americans want 'independent' investigation of Trump: Reuters/Ipsos poll
According to the poll, 59 percent of adults, including 41 percent of Republicans and 79 percent of Democrats, agreed that "Congress should launch an independent investigation into communications between the Russian government and the Trump campaign during the 2016 election."
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tr...l-idUSKCN18B2LN


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#1099

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 22:56
von mbockstette | 12.540 Beiträge

Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #1069
Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #1064
Nachstehendes soll kein Sermon fuer Andersglaeubige hier sein, sondern eine Klarstellung bezueglich jener, die im oeffentlichen und politischen Leben nicht muede werden, ihre vermeintliche Christlichkeit als Begruendung fuer ihr Tun und handeln anzufuehren -und die andere staendig mit dieser ihrer Religioesitaet unter Druck zu setzen und in ihrer Freiheit beschneiden wollen.

Conservative Christianity Is Now Everything It Once Hated: Post-Modern, Morally Relative, and Post-Truth
For a religion that touts the virtues of truth, large segments of American Christianity couldn’t care less about whether it’s found within the political system it helped put into power.

You cannot be a Christian truth-bearer while simultaneously spewing political propaganda that contradicts the love of Jesus.
At the very least, Christians should pursue truth, defend it, then passionately promote it, because this is what it means to be a Christian: to abide in truth, to emulate Christ.

Unfortunately, the message of Christ — truth — is being tarnished by many Christians who would rather support a president and administration than seriously consider any forms of truth or facts that may contradict their preferred worldview....

For years, conservative Christians have warned against the dangers of postmodernism and moral relativism, but ironically, are now more than happy to apply these philosophies to their favorite political leaders. Facts are simply a matter of opinion. Morality and character are no longer important. Truth is meaningless.

When this erosion of truth happens, Jesus’ teachings of helping the poor, accepting the outcast, healing the sick, forgiving your enemies, loving your neighbor, and doing unto others and you would have them do unto you can become forsaken, and are exchanged for border walls, deportation programs, bombing campaigns, travel bans, and policies that make people’s lives worse — not better.
And when the truthful message of Jesus is sold out for the lies of political power, a transformative faith that is fueled by the Holy Spirit —exhibited by love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, and self-control— gets quickly transformed into a civic religion managed by federal legislation — exhibited by corruption, deception, fear-mongering, racism, xenophobia, misogyny, and greed.
https://sojo.net/articles/conservative-c...ly-relative-and


Was für ein Bullshit. Die jesuanische Botschaft war keine politische Botschaft (Johannes 18,36), auch wenn sie politische Implikationen hat, seine Botschaft war keine Morallehre, wenngleich sie ethische Implikationen besitzt. Es ist die Botschaft des Gottesreichs bzw. der Gottesherrschaft. Die Verengung dieser Botschaft auf eine Morallehre, und dann noch auf eine politische Morallehre, ist wohl der ärgste Tort, der der (in den USA überall präsente) Calvinismus dem Christentum angetan hat. Dabei spielt es keine Rolle, ob diese politische Morallehre "konservativer" oder "progressiver" Natur ist. Natürlich kann ein Christ kein Rassist oder Frauenfeind sein, das bedeutet nicht, dass er eine schrankenlose Migration oder die "satanische Genderlehre" (O-Ton Papst Franziskus) akzeptieren muss. Und sicherlich kann man als Christ keine Abtreibungen, Spätabtreibungen oder unbegrenzte Stammzellforschung unterstützen.


http://www.ilgiornale.it/news/politica/a...ni-1177021.html
http://www.weeklystandard.com/video-obam.../article/650524
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-ends-s...l-research-ban/


Was für Nahal die Westbank ist, das ist für Dich der Uterus.


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RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 23:09
von Maga-neu | 35.491 Beiträge

Zitat von mbockstette im Beitrag #1099
Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #1069
Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #1064
Nachstehendes soll kein Sermon fuer Andersglaeubige hier sein, sondern eine Klarstellung bezueglich jener, die im oeffentlichen und politischen Leben nicht muede werden, ihre vermeintliche Christlichkeit als Begruendung fuer ihr Tun und handeln anzufuehren -und die andere staendig mit dieser ihrer Religioesitaet unter Druck zu setzen und in ihrer Freiheit beschneiden wollen.

Conservative Christianity Is Now Everything It Once Hated: Post-Modern, Morally Relative, and Post-Truth
For a religion that touts the virtues of truth, large segments of American Christianity couldn’t care less about whether it’s found within the political system it helped put into power.

You cannot be a Christian truth-bearer while simultaneously spewing political propaganda that contradicts the love of Jesus.
At the very least, Christians should pursue truth, defend it, then passionately promote it, because this is what it means to be a Christian: to abide in truth, to emulate Christ.

Unfortunately, the message of Christ — truth — is being tarnished by many Christians who would rather support a president and administration than seriously consider any forms of truth or facts that may contradict their preferred worldview....

For years, conservative Christians have warned against the dangers of postmodernism and moral relativism, but ironically, are now more than happy to apply these philosophies to their favorite political leaders. Facts are simply a matter of opinion. Morality and character are no longer important. Truth is meaningless.

When this erosion of truth happens, Jesus’ teachings of helping the poor, accepting the outcast, healing the sick, forgiving your enemies, loving your neighbor, and doing unto others and you would have them do unto you can become forsaken, and are exchanged for border walls, deportation programs, bombing campaigns, travel bans, and policies that make people’s lives worse — not better.
And when the truthful message of Jesus is sold out for the lies of political power, a transformative faith that is fueled by the Holy Spirit —exhibited by love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, and self-control— gets quickly transformed into a civic religion managed by federal legislation — exhibited by corruption, deception, fear-mongering, racism, xenophobia, misogyny, and greed.
https://sojo.net/articles/conservative-c...ly-relative-and


Was für ein Bullshit. Die jesuanische Botschaft war keine politische Botschaft (Johannes 18,36), auch wenn sie politische Implikationen hat, seine Botschaft war keine Morallehre, wenngleich sie ethische Implikationen besitzt. Es ist die Botschaft des Gottesreichs bzw. der Gottesherrschaft. Die Verengung dieser Botschaft auf eine Morallehre, und dann noch auf eine politische Morallehre, ist wohl der ärgste Tort, der der (in den USA überall präsente) Calvinismus dem Christentum angetan hat. Dabei spielt es keine Rolle, ob diese politische Morallehre "konservativer" oder "progressiver" Natur ist. Natürlich kann ein Christ kein Rassist oder Frauenfeind sein, das bedeutet nicht, dass er eine schrankenlose Migration oder die "satanische Genderlehre" (O-Ton Papst Franziskus) akzeptieren muss. Und sicherlich kann man als Christ keine Abtreibungen, Spätabtreibungen oder unbegrenzte Stammzellforschung unterstützen.


http://www.ilgiornale.it/news/politica/a...ni-1177021.html
http://www.weeklystandard.com/video-obam.../article/650524
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-ends-s...l-research-ban/


Was für Nahal die Westbank ist, das ist für Dich der Uterus.

Quatsch. Ich bin einfach für Klarheit, also gegen die verschwurbelten Begrifflichkeiten - "Schwangerschaftsabbruch" etc.


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