#1051

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 15.05.2017 14:48
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Trump To Name Newt Gingrich’s Former Mistress As Vatican Ambassador Ahead Of Meeting With Pope
Callista Gingrich, the wife of former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, is the preferred nominee to be the next ambassador to the Vatican. The White House hopes to announce her nomination before President Donald Trump meets with Pope Francis on May 24 in Rome.

From Wikipedia: “Callista testified in 1999 as part of Gingrich’s divorce proceedings that the couple began a six-year affair in 1993 while Newt was married to his second wife, Marianne.”
http://www.joemygod.com/2017/05/14/trump...d-meeting-pope/

In keeping with tradition, the sinners will pretend to be saints so they can point their fingers at everyone else to distract from their own sins.



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#1052

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 15.05.2017 14:55
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#1053

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 15.05.2017 15:05
von nahal | 24.645 Beiträge

"On "America's News HQ" this afternoon, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) revealed that another senator confided in him that he was surveilled by the Obama administration.

Earlier this week, Paul said reporters have told him they have evidence he was a target of Obama administration spying.

This is the first time that Paul mentioned another senator is also concerned about the Obama administration's surveillance.

He said if this proves to be true, it's a much bigger story than any allegations about collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia during the presidential election.

"It's about your own government spying on the opposition party," Paul said. "That would be enormous if it's true."


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#1054

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 15.05.2017 15:07
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Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1053
"On "America's News HQ" this afternoon, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) revealed that another senator confided in him that he was surveilled by the Obama administration.

Earlier this week, Paul said reporters have told him they have evidence he was a target of Obama administration spying.

This is the first time that Paul mentioned another senator is also concerned about the Obama administration's surveillance.

He said if this proves to be true, it's a much bigger story than any allegations about collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia during the presidential election.

"It's about your own government spying on the opposition party," Paul said. "That would be enormous if it's true."



:-)))


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#1055

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 15.05.2017 15:08
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#1056

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 15.05.2017 15:35
von mbockstette | 12.540 Beiträge

Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1053
"On "America's News HQ" this afternoon, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) revealed that another senator confided in him that he was surveilled by the Obama administration.

Earlier this week, Paul said reporters have told him they have evidence he was a target of Obama administration spying.

This is the first time that Paul mentioned another senator is also concerned about the Obama administration's surveillance.

He said if this proves to be true, it's a much bigger story than any allegations about collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia during the presidential election.

"It's about your own government spying on the opposition party," Paul said. "That would be enormous if it's true."



Gossip at it´s best.


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#1057

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 15.05.2017 15:40
von nahal | 24.645 Beiträge

Zitat von mbockstette im Beitrag #1056
Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1053
"On "America's News HQ" this afternoon, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) revealed that another senator confided in him that he was surveilled by the Obama administration.

Earlier this week, Paul said reporters have told him they have evidence he was a target of Obama administration spying.

This is the first time that Paul mentioned another senator is also concerned about the Obama administration's surveillance.

He said if this proves to be true, it's a much bigger story than any allegations about collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia during the presidential election.

"It's about your own government spying on the opposition party," Paul said. "That would be enormous if it's true."



Gossip at it´s best.


Weil es in deiner Traumwelt nicht passt?
CIA-, NSA-, FBI-Chefs haben bestätigt, dass Kongressabgeordnete ausspioniert ( accidentaly) wurden.


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#1058

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 15.05.2017 15:50
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Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1057
Zitat von mbockstette im Beitrag #1056
Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1053
"On "America's News HQ" this afternoon, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) revealed that another senator confided in him that he was surveilled by the Obama administration.

Earlier this week, Paul said reporters have told him they have evidence he was a target of Obama administration spying.

This is the first time that Paul mentioned another senator is also concerned about the Obama administration's surveillance.

He said if this proves to be true, it's a much bigger story than any allegations about collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia during the presidential election.

"It's about your own government spying on the opposition party," Paul said. "That would be enormous if it's true."



Gossip at it´s best.


Weil es in deiner Traumwelt nicht passt?
CIA-, NSA-, FBI-Chefs haben bestätigt, dass Kongressabgeordnete ausspioniert ( accidentaly) wurden.

Jetzt muss einer nur halt noch begreifen was das Woertchen "accidentally" bedeutet.:-)))


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#1059

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 15.05.2017 15:54
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GOP Senator: Trump’s Firing Of Comey Worsens ‘Erosion Of Trust’ In Government
Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE) on Sunday said President Donald Trump’s abrupt termination of former FBI Director James Comey “exacerbates the erosion of trust” in government institutions.

“We are in the midst of a civilization-warping crisis of public trust,” Sasse said. “We’re going to need to have some institutions that we can rely on and believe are apolitical, when the public has more and more doubt.”
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/be...t-in-government


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#1060

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 15.05.2017 15:58
von nahal | 24.645 Beiträge

Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #1058
Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1057
Zitat von mbockstette im Beitrag #1056
Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1053
"On "America's News HQ" this afternoon, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) revealed that another senator confided in him that he was surveilled by the Obama administration.

Earlier this week, Paul said reporters have told him they have evidence he was a target of Obama administration spying.

This is the first time that Paul mentioned another senator is also concerned about the Obama administration's surveillance.

He said if this proves to be true, it's a much bigger story than any allegations about collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia during the presidential election.

"It's about your own government spying on the opposition party," Paul said. "That would be enormous if it's true."



Gossip at it´s best.


Weil es in deiner Traumwelt nicht passt?
CIA-, NSA-, FBI-Chefs haben bestätigt, dass Kongressabgeordnete ausspioniert ( accidentaly) wurden.

Jetzt muss einer nur halt noch begreifen was das Woertchen "accidentally" bedeutet.:-)))


Lesen bildet:
"The NSA's Rules for Accidentally Spying on You: Report"

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/20...-on-you-report/


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#1061

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 15.05.2017 16:05
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Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1060
Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #1058
Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1057
Zitat von mbockstette im Beitrag #1056
Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1053
"On "America's News HQ" this afternoon, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) revealed that another senator confided in him that he was surveilled by the Obama administration.

Earlier this week, Paul said reporters have told him they have evidence he was a target of Obama administration spying.

This is the first time that Paul mentioned another senator is also concerned about the Obama administration's surveillance.

He said if this proves to be true, it's a much bigger story than any allegations about collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia during the presidential election.

"It's about your own government spying on the opposition party," Paul said. "That would be enormous if it's true."



Gossip at it´s best.


Weil es in deiner Traumwelt nicht passt?
CIA-, NSA-, FBI-Chefs haben bestätigt, dass Kongressabgeordnete ausspioniert ( accidentaly) wurden.

Jetzt muss einer nur halt noch begreifen was das Woertchen "accidentally" bedeutet.:-)))


Lesen bildet:
"The NSA's Rules for Accidentally Spying on You: Report"

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/20...-on-you-report/

Yep. Aber noch mehr das begreifen des gelesenen.


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#1062

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 15.05.2017 16:15
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Clapper: US govt 'under assault' by Trump after Comey firing
American democracy is "under assault" on separate fronts from President Donald Trump and Russia, the former U.S. intelligence chief warned Sunday, expressing dismay over the abrupt firing of FBI director James Comey amid a probe into Moscow's meddling in U.S. elections and possible ties with the Trump campaign.

As Trump works to fast-track Comey's successor, lawmakers from both parties urged him to steer clear of any politicians for the job and say he must "clean up the mess that he mostly created."
"I think, in many ways, our institutions are under assault, both externally — and that's the big news here, is the Russian interference in our election system," said James Clapper, the former director of national intelligence. "I think as well our institutions are under assault internally."

When he was asked, "Internally, from the president?" Clapper said, "Exactly."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory...rector-47399481


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#1063

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 15.05.2017 16:17
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Jim Bakker: Making Fun Of Trump Is The ‘Spirit Of The Antichrist’
Disgraced televangelist said the first horseman of the Apocalypse is here.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jim-...4b0031e737ebff7


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#1064

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 15.05.2017 16:36
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Nachstehendes soll kein Sermon fuer Andersglaeubige hier sein, sondern eine Klarstellung bezueglich jener, die im oeffentlichen und politischen Leben nicht muede werden, ihre vermeintliche Christlichkeit als Begruendung fuer ihr Tun und handeln anzufuehren -und die andere staendig mit dieser ihrer Religioesitaet unter Druck zu setzen und in ihrer Freiheit beschneiden wollen.

Conservative Christianity Is Now Everything It Once Hated: Post-Modern, Morally Relative, and Post-Truth
For a religion that touts the virtues of truth, large segments of American Christianity couldn’t care less about whether it’s found within the political system it helped put into power.

You cannot be a Christian truth-bearer while simultaneously spewing political propaganda that contradicts the love of Jesus.
At the very least, Christians should pursue truth, defend it, then passionately promote it, because this is what it means to be a Christian: to abide in truth, to emulate Christ.

Unfortunately, the message of Christ — truth — is being tarnished by many Christians who would rather support a president and administration than seriously consider any forms of truth or facts that may contradict their preferred worldview....

For years, conservative Christians have warned against the dangers of postmodernism and moral relativism, but ironically, are now more than happy to apply these philosophies to their favorite political leaders. Facts are simply a matter of opinion. Morality and character are no longer important. Truth is meaningless.

When this erosion of truth happens, Jesus’ teachings of helping the poor, accepting the outcast, healing the sick, forgiving your enemies, loving your neighbor, and doing unto others and you would have them do unto you can become forsaken, and are exchanged for border walls, deportation programs, bombing campaigns, travel bans, and policies that make people’s lives worse — not better.
And when the truthful message of Jesus is sold out for the lies of political power, a transformative faith that is fueled by the Holy Spirit —exhibited by love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, and self-control— gets quickly transformed into a civic religion managed by federal legislation — exhibited by corruption, deception, fear-mongering, racism, xenophobia, misogyny, and greed.
https://sojo.net/articles/conservative-c...ly-relative-and



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#1065

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 00:18
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Caught in the Trump trap: Republicans made a deal with the devil, and now they’re stuck with him
A tale of two flawed democracies — America and France — exposes the nature of the GOP's terrible Trump compromise
http://www.salon.com/2017/05/14/caught-i...stuck-with-him/


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#1066

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 10:49
von Indo_HS | 2.708 Beiträge

Und wieder ein neuer trump'scher Skandal:

<<IS-Unterlagen für Russland? Trump soll Geheimdokumente gezeigt haben>>
http://www.n-tv.de/politik/Trump-soll-Ge...le19842752.html

Die gute Nachricht: Es ist nunmehr weniger die Frage, OB Trump auf der einen oder anderen Weise wegen diverser anti-amerikanischer Vergehen und No-goes neutralisiert wird, z.B. durch Impeachment, sondern WANN.



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#1067

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 11:38
von nahal | 24.645 Beiträge

McMaster: "The Story That Came Out Tonight As Reported Is False"
" I was in the room. It didn't happen."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2...d_is_false.html


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#1068

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 12:48
von Maga-neu | 35.491 Beiträge

Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #1064
Nachstehendes soll kein Sermon fuer Andersglaeubige hier sein, sondern eine Klarstellung bezueglich jener, die im oeffentlichen und politischen Leben nicht muede werden, ihre vermeintliche Christlichkeit als Begruendung fuer ihr Tun und handeln anzufuehren -und die andere staendig mit dieser ihrer Religioesitaet unter Druck zu setzen und in ihrer Freiheit beschneiden wollen.

Conservative Christianity Is Now Everything It Once Hated: Post-Modern, Morally Relative, and Post-Truth
For a religion that touts the virtues of truth, large segments of American Christianity couldn’t care less about whether it’s found within the political system it helped put into power.

You cannot be a Christian truth-bearer while simultaneously spewing political propaganda that contradicts the love of Jesus.
At the very least, Christians should pursue truth, defend it, then passionately promote it, because this is what it means to be a Christian: to abide in truth, to emulate Christ.

Unfortunately, the message of Christ — truth — is being tarnished by many Christians who would rather support a president and administration than seriously consider any forms of truth or facts that may contradict their preferred worldview....

For years, conservative Christians have warned against the dangers of postmodernism and moral relativism, but ironically, are now more than happy to apply these philosophies to their favorite political leaders. Facts are simply a matter of opinion. Morality and character are no longer important. Truth is meaningless.

When this erosion of truth happens, Jesus’ teachings of helping the poor, accepting the outcast, healing the sick, forgiving your enemies, loving your neighbor, and doing unto others and you would have them do unto you can become forsaken, and are exchanged for border walls, deportation programs, bombing campaigns, travel bans, and policies that make people’s lives worse — not better.
And when the truthful message of Jesus is sold out for the lies of political power, a transformative faith that is fueled by the Holy Spirit —exhibited by love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, and self-control— gets quickly transformed into a civic religion managed by federal legislation — exhibited by corruption, deception, fear-mongering, racism, xenophobia, misogyny, and greed.
https://sojo.net/articles/conservative-c...ly-relative-and

Haha. Zitat: "and are exchanged for border walls,
https://www.google.de/search?q=wall+betw...=CTil_TYTnToG7M:
Toll, was Trump in der kurzen Zeit, mal etwas mehr als 100 Tage geschafft hat

deportation programs
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-de...ory?id=41715661

bombing campaigns,
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...16-obama-legacy

travel bans
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/19/us/po...itors.html?_r=0

and policies that make people’s lives worse — not better"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/...obama-promises/


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#1069

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 13:21
von Maga-neu | 35.491 Beiträge

Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #1064
Nachstehendes soll kein Sermon fuer Andersglaeubige hier sein, sondern eine Klarstellung bezueglich jener, die im oeffentlichen und politischen Leben nicht muede werden, ihre vermeintliche Christlichkeit als Begruendung fuer ihr Tun und handeln anzufuehren -und die andere staendig mit dieser ihrer Religioesitaet unter Druck zu setzen und in ihrer Freiheit beschneiden wollen.

Conservative Christianity Is Now Everything It Once Hated: Post-Modern, Morally Relative, and Post-Truth
For a religion that touts the virtues of truth, large segments of American Christianity couldn’t care less about whether it’s found within the political system it helped put into power.

You cannot be a Christian truth-bearer while simultaneously spewing political propaganda that contradicts the love of Jesus.
At the very least, Christians should pursue truth, defend it, then passionately promote it, because this is what it means to be a Christian: to abide in truth, to emulate Christ.

Unfortunately, the message of Christ — truth — is being tarnished by many Christians who would rather support a president and administration than seriously consider any forms of truth or facts that may contradict their preferred worldview....

For years, conservative Christians have warned against the dangers of postmodernism and moral relativism, but ironically, are now more than happy to apply these philosophies to their favorite political leaders. Facts are simply a matter of opinion. Morality and character are no longer important. Truth is meaningless.

When this erosion of truth happens, Jesus’ teachings of helping the poor, accepting the outcast, healing the sick, forgiving your enemies, loving your neighbor, and doing unto others and you would have them do unto you can become forsaken, and are exchanged for border walls, deportation programs, bombing campaigns, travel bans, and policies that make people’s lives worse — not better.
And when the truthful message of Jesus is sold out for the lies of political power, a transformative faith that is fueled by the Holy Spirit —exhibited by love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, and self-control— gets quickly transformed into a civic religion managed by federal legislation — exhibited by corruption, deception, fear-mongering, racism, xenophobia, misogyny, and greed.
https://sojo.net/articles/conservative-c...ly-relative-and


Was für ein Bullshit. Die jesuanische Botschaft war keine politische Botschaft (Johannes 18,36), auch wenn sie politische Implikationen hat, seine Botschaft war keine Morallehre, wenngleich sie ethische Implikationen besitzt. Es ist die Botschaft des Gottesreichs bzw. der Gottesherrschaft. Die Verengung dieser Botschaft auf eine Morallehre, und dann noch auf eine politische Morallehre, ist wohl der ärgste Tort, der der (in den USA überall präsente) Calvinismus dem Christentum angetan hat. Dabei spielt es keine Rolle, ob diese politische Morallehre "konservativer" oder "progressiver" Natur ist. Natürlich kann ein Christ kein Rassist oder Frauenfeind sein, das bedeutet nicht, dass er eine schrankenlose Migration oder die "satanische Genderlehre" (O-Ton Papst Franziskus) akzeptieren muss. Und sicherlich kann man als Christ keine Abtreibungen, Spätabtreibungen oder unbegrenzte Stammzellforschung unterstützen.


http://www.ilgiornale.it/news/politica/a...ni-1177021.html
http://www.weeklystandard.com/video-obam.../article/650524
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-ends-s...l-research-ban/


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#1070

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 14:40
von nahal | 24.645 Beiträge

Haben die bösen Russen die Clinton-mails an Wikileaks weitergegeben?
Die Legende wurde bis jetzt gepflegt.
Es sieht aber a bissel anders aus:


"A federal investigator who reviewed an FBI forensic report detailing the contents of DNC staffer Seth Rich’s computer generated within 96 hours after his murder, said Rich made contact with Wikileaks through Gavin MacFadyen, a now-deceased American investigative reporter, documentary filmmaker, and director of WikiLeaks who was living in London at the time.


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#1071

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 15:13
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GOP Senator: White House In A ‘Downward Spiral’
Trump ally Bob Corker said the administration “has got to do something soon to bring itself under control.”

Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) issued a rare rebuke of President Donald Trump’s administration Monday evening, telling reporters the White House must find a way to reverse its “downward spiral.”
Corker, a Trump ally who chairs the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, made the criticism following reports that the president revealed “highly classified” information during a meeting with Russian officials last week.
“The White House has got to do something soon to bring itself under control and in order. It’s got to happen,” Corker said on Capitol Hill.

“Obviously, they’re in a downward spiral right now, and they’ve got to figure out a way to come to grips [with] all that’s happening,” he added.

Top Trump administration officials, including Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, disputed the reports, saying that the president did not “discuss sources, methods or military operations” with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

Reports in The Washington Post and other media outlets, however, did not say the president discussed “sources, methods, or military operations” with Russian officials, but did reveal intelligence from a secret source.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bob-...kushpmg00000009


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#1072

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 15:22
von Willie (gelöscht)
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Reports: Trump Revealed Highly Classified Info To Top Russian Officials
President Donald Trump shared highly classified information with the Russian foreign minister and ambassador to the U.S. during an Oval Office meeting last week, jeopardizing the intelligence community’s access to a key source on the Islamic State, the Washington Post reported Monday.

Current and former U.S. officials who spoke to the newspaper on condition of anonymity said that the United States was not authorized to share the information, which related to an ISIL threat involving the use of laptop computers on aircraft, with Russia.
BuzzFeed News and the New York Times corroborated the Post’s story shortly after it was published.

The President was reportedly eager to demonstrate to his hosts that he had access to the highest levels of classified information.
One official with knowledge of the meeting told the Post that Trump bragged, “I get great intel. I have people brief me on great intel every day.”

Trump already had stoked controversy by hosting Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Ambassador Sergey Kislyak at the White House last Wednesday, one day after abruptly firing FBI director James Comey. The President said that part of the reason he dismissed Comey, under whose watch federal investigators were probing whether Trump campaign staffers were colluding with Russian operatives who interfered in the U.S. presidential election, was his focus on this “Russia thing.”
A Russian media outlet snapped photographs of the three men laughing and chatting in the Oval Office, while American press were not allowed in the room.

The Post report alleged that Trump revealed information, including the city in ISIL-controlled territory where the U.S. intelligence partner said the threat originated, that hadn’t been shared with the United States’ “own allies.” He also reportedly told the visitors about the measures the U.S. has taken or is considering taking to counter the threat, according to the report, despite his frequent refusal to publicly telegraph his military strategy.

The Trump administration insisted Trump did not improperly share information about sources and methods in that meeting.
“The president and the foreign minister reviewed common threats from terrorist organizations to include threats to aviation,” National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, who sat in on the meeting, told the Post. “At no time were any intelligence sources or methods discussed and no military operations were disclosed that were not already known publicly.”

The Post’s sources contradicted that account, saying senior White House officials needed to call the CIA and National Security Agency as soon as the conversation ended to try to prevent further information from leaking out.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/re...als-white-house


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#1073

RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 15:25
von Willie (gelöscht)
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McMaster Now Says Reports Trump Revealed Highly Classified Intel ‘False’
In a curt statement from the White House driveway, National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster on Monday said an explosive Washington Post report that President Donald Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian officials was, “as reported,” “false.”

Carefully choosing his words, McMaster said that Trump did not speak about “intelligence sources or methods” during a meeting last week in the Oval Office with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.

The Post story does not allege that Trump divulged sources or methods in that meeting, but rather that the United States was not authorized to share the information the President revealed to the Russian officials about an Islamic State threat involving the use of laptop computers on aircraft. Anonymous officials familiar with the meeting told the newspaper that the conversation could jeopardize one of the intelligence community’s key sources on ISIL.

BuzzFeed, the New York Times and Reuters were among the publications who subsequently corroborated the Post’s account.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mc...on-russia-false

The McMaster Statement
"A brief statement for the record. There is nothing that the president takes more seriously than the security of the American people. The story that came out tonight as reported is false. The president of the foreign minister reviewed a range of common threats to our two countries, including threats to civil aviation. At no time, at no time, where intelligent sources or methods discussed. The president did not disclose any military operations that were not already publicly known. Two other senior officials who were present, including the secretary of the state, remember the meeting the same way and have said so. Going on the record should outweigh the anonymous sources. I was in the room. It didn’t happen. Thanks, everybody."
This is a pretty declarative and all-encompassing statement. But that’s true only on the surface.

McMaster’s specific denials remain what I noted about his statement given originally to the Post. They deny things the Post story does not allege. As I read it, the Post says Trump revealed classified information from which sources and methods information can be inferred, not that he discussed them directly. It’s quite possible Trump may not even know that level of detail.
That part is a classic non-denial denial.

But McMaster adds at the top: “The story that came out tonight as reported is false.”
The “as reported” is a hedge. But more fundamentally saying “the story” is false can mean anything. He doubles down later. “I was in the room. It didn’t happen.” But again, what didn’t happen? The only reason I can think of to be totalizing in general and lawyerly and non-denailing in the specifics is that you’re trying to deny something that actually did happen.
Even though I think these statements are far more general than they may seem, it’s just as true that McMaster is putting his credibility on the line for Trump.

If the circumstances were different, this might give me some pause about the story. But the Post and the Times just have infinitely more credibility than the Trump White House at this point. What’s more, there are details about giving ‘heads up’ calls to the NSA and CIA. Assuming those calls were made, that certainly strongly suggests something serious went wrong.

As I noted earlier after Deputy National Security Advisor Powell made her statement, if McMaster felt he was able to deny the story, he would have done so in his original statement to the Post. But he didn’t. He has sort of done so now, but with his specific declarations still denying things which were never alleged.

The most reasonable take on this is that McMaster’s statement can’t really deny the details of the story. But the story is of sufficient gravity that he has felt the need to deceive the public, putting his own credibility on the line and destroying it in one moment.
If the story falls apart, perhaps he’ll be vindicated. But it looks like he just sacrificed his credibility on the altar of Trump.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-mcmaster-statement



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RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 15:38
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Zitat von Indo_HS im Beitrag #1066
Und wieder ein neuer trump'scher Skandal:

<<IS-Unterlagen für Russland? Trump soll Geheimdokumente gezeigt haben>>
http://www.n-tv.de/politik/Trump-soll-Ge...le19842752.html

Die gute Nachricht: Es ist nunmehr weniger die Frage, OB Trump auf der einen oder anderen Weise wegen diverser anti-amerikanischer Vergehen und No-goes neutralisiert wird, z.B. durch Impeachment, sondern WANN.

Ich hoffe er bleibt uns noch etwa 2 Jahre erhalten. Die Demontage der GOP hat ja gerade erst begonnen.


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RE: RE:Illusionen der Rechten.

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 16.05.2017 15:58
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Baron von Trumpfhausen ist natuerlich auch ein Plagiator -no surprise there.

https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats...43006679125714/

:-)))



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