#1726

RE: covfefe!

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 26.06.2017 16:42
von nahal | 24.645 Beiträge

The Supreme Court said Monday that most of President Trump’s travel ban executive order can go into effect, delivering the first major victory to the new administration on perhaps his most controversial policy to date.
Justices said the lower court rulings that blocked Mr. Trump’s policy were far too broad, and said the president can begin to enforce his ban against foreigners who don’t already have some ties to the U.S.


The court’s ruling was issued in an unsigned unanimous opinion, though Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel A. Alito Jr. and Neil M. Gorsuch said they would have gone further and lifted the entire injunctions.



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#1727

RE: covfefe!

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 26.06.2017 17:09
von mbockstette | 12.543 Beiträge

Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1726
The Supreme Court said Monday that most of President Trump’s travel ban executive order can go into effect, delivering the first major victory to the new administration on perhaps his most controversial policy to date.
Justices said the lower court rulings that blocked Mr. Trump’s policy were far too broad, and said the president can begin to enforce his ban against foreigners who don’t already have some ties to the U.S.


The court’s ruling was issued in an unsigned unanimous opinion, though Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel A. Alito Jr. and Neil M. Gorsuch said they would have gone further and lifted the entire injunctions.


The court scheduled the broader case as part of its next session that begins in October — but pointedly suggested Mr. Trump may have concluded his broader review of U.S. visa policies by then, so there shouldn’t be a need to hear the case at all.


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#1728

RE: covfefe!

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 26.06.2017 17:18
von nahal | 24.645 Beiträge

Zitat von mbockstette im Beitrag #1727
Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1726
The Supreme Court said Monday that most of President Trump’s travel ban executive order can go into effect, delivering the first major victory to the new administration on perhaps his most controversial policy to date.
Justices said the lower court rulings that blocked Mr. Trump’s policy were far too broad, and said the president can begin to enforce his ban against foreigners who don’t already have some ties to the U.S.


The court’s ruling was issued in an unsigned unanimous opinion, though Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel A. Alito Jr. and Neil M. Gorsuch said they would have gone further and lifted the entire injunctions.


The court scheduled the broader case as part of its next session that begins in October — but pointedly suggested Mr. Trump may have concluded his broader review of U.S. visa policies by then, so there shouldn’t be a need to hear the case at all.


Ja, aber was Sache ist:
1. Das Dekret war verfassungsgemäß, mit einer Konkretisierung:
Familienmitglieder und Antragsteller, die eine sonstige Beziehung zu USA haben sind ausgeschlossen.
2. Das Dekret tritt innerhalb der nächsten 72 Stunden in Kraft
3. Es wurde festgestellt, dass die unteren Gerichte ihre Kompetenzen überschritten haben.


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#1729

RE: covfefe!

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 26.06.2017 17:24
von nahal | 24.645 Beiträge

Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1728
Zitat von mbockstette im Beitrag #1727
Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1726
The Supreme Court said Monday that most of President Trump’s travel ban executive order can go into effect, delivering the first major victory to the new administration on perhaps his most controversial policy to date.
Justices said the lower court rulings that blocked Mr. Trump’s policy were far too broad, and said the president can begin to enforce his ban against foreigners who don’t already have some ties to the U.S.


The court’s ruling was issued in an unsigned unanimous opinion, though Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel A. Alito Jr. and Neil M. Gorsuch said they would have gone further and lifted the entire injunctions.


The court scheduled the broader case as part of its next session that begins in October — but pointedly suggested Mr. Trump may have concluded his broader review of U.S. visa policies by then, so there shouldn’t be a need to hear the case at all.


Ja, aber was Sache ist:
1. Das Dekret war verfassungsgemäß, mit einer Konkretisierung:
Familienmitglieder und Antragsteller, die eine sonstige Beziehung zu USA haben sind ausgeschlossen.
2. Das Dekret tritt innerhalb der nächsten 72 Stunden in Kraft
3. Es wurde festgestellt, dass die unteren Gerichte ihre Kompetenzen überschritten haben.


Das Gericht stellt auch für die Zukunft endlich klar:
"At the same time, the Government’s interest in enforcing §2(c), and the Executive’s authority to do so, are undoubtedly
at their peak when there is no tie between the foreign national and the United States. "

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/16pdf/16-1436_l6hc.pdf


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#1730

RE: covfefe!

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 26.06.2017 17:48
von mbockstette | 12.543 Beiträge

Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1729
Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1728
Zitat von mbockstette im Beitrag #1727
Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1726
The Supreme Court said Monday that most of President Trump’s travel ban executive order can go into effect, delivering the first major victory to the new administration on perhaps his most controversial policy to date.
Justices said the lower court rulings that blocked Mr. Trump’s policy were far too broad, and said the president can begin to enforce his ban against foreigners who don’t already have some ties to the U.S.


The court’s ruling was issued in an unsigned unanimous opinion, though Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel A. Alito Jr. and Neil M. Gorsuch said they would have gone further and lifted the entire injunctions.


The court scheduled the broader case as part of its next session that begins in October — but pointedly suggested Mr. Trump may have concluded his broader review of U.S. visa policies by then, so there shouldn’t be a need to hear the case at all.


Ja, aber was Sache ist:
1. Das Dekret war verfassungsgemäß, mit einer Konkretisierung:
Familienmitglieder und Antragsteller, die eine sonstige Beziehung zu USA haben sind ausgeschlossen.
2. Das Dekret tritt innerhalb der nächsten 72 Stunden in Kraft
3. Es wurde festgestellt, dass die unteren Gerichte ihre Kompetenzen überschritten haben.


Das Gericht stellt auch für die Zukunft endlich klar:
"At the same time, the Government’s interest in enforcing §2(c), and the Executive’s authority to do so, are undoubtedly
at their peak when there is no tie between the foreign national and the United States. "

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/16pdf/16-1436_l6hc.pdf


Das sehe ich auch so - und doch wissen wir beide, dass es bei der Verordnung Trump´s nicht primär um die Sicherheit der USA geht, sondern um eine Konfrontation gegenüber den genannten Staaten.


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#1731

RE: covfefe!

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 26.06.2017 18:10
von nahal | 24.645 Beiträge

Zitat von mbockstette im Beitrag #1730
Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1729
Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1728
Zitat von mbockstette im Beitrag #1727
Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1726
The Supreme Court said Monday that most of President Trump’s travel ban executive order can go into effect, delivering the first major victory to the new administration on perhaps his most controversial policy to date.
Justices said the lower court rulings that blocked Mr. Trump’s policy were far too broad, and said the president can begin to enforce his ban against foreigners who don’t already have some ties to the U.S.


The court’s ruling was issued in an unsigned unanimous opinion, though Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel A. Alito Jr. and Neil M. Gorsuch said they would have gone further and lifted the entire injunctions.


The court scheduled the broader case as part of its next session that begins in October — but pointedly suggested Mr. Trump may have concluded his broader review of U.S. visa policies by then, so there shouldn’t be a need to hear the case at all.


Ja, aber was Sache ist:
1. Das Dekret war verfassungsgemäß, mit einer Konkretisierung:
Familienmitglieder und Antragsteller, die eine sonstige Beziehung zu USA haben sind ausgeschlossen.
2. Das Dekret tritt innerhalb der nächsten 72 Stunden in Kraft
3. Es wurde festgestellt, dass die unteren Gerichte ihre Kompetenzen überschritten haben.


Das Gericht stellt auch für die Zukunft endlich klar:
"At the same time, the Government’s interest in enforcing §2(c), and the Executive’s authority to do so, are undoubtedly
at their peak when there is no tie between the foreign national and the United States. "

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/16pdf/16-1436_l6hc.pdf


Das sehe ich auch so - und doch wissen wir beide, dass es bei der Verordnung Trump´s nicht primär um die Sicherheit der USA geht, sondern um eine Konfrontation gegenüber den genannten Staaten.


Ja, aber wo er recht hat, hat er recht.
Und wieder mal eine Schlappe für alle Total-Gegner. Vielleicht lernst du auch etwas daraus.
Wenigstens hast du dich nicht so wie Willie-Boy verdrückt.



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#1732

RE: covfefe!

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 26.06.2017 21:50
von Willie (gelöscht)
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Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1731
Zitat von mbockstette im Beitrag #1730
Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1729
Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1728
Zitat von mbockstette im Beitrag #1727
Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #1726
The Supreme Court said Monday that most of President Trump’s travel ban executive order can go into effect, delivering the first major victory to the new administration on perhaps his most controversial policy to date.
Justices said the lower court rulings that blocked Mr. Trump’s policy were far too broad, and said the president can begin to enforce his ban against foreigners who don’t already have some ties to the U.S.


The court’s ruling was issued in an unsigned unanimous opinion, though Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel A. Alito Jr. and Neil M. Gorsuch said they would have gone further and lifted the entire injunctions.


The court scheduled the broader case as part of its next session that begins in October — but pointedly suggested Mr. Trump may have concluded his broader review of U.S. visa policies by then, so there shouldn’t be a need to hear the case at all.


Ja, aber was Sache ist:
1. Das Dekret war verfassungsgemäß, mit einer Konkretisierung:
Familienmitglieder und Antragsteller, die eine sonstige Beziehung zu USA haben sind ausgeschlossen.
2. Das Dekret tritt innerhalb der nächsten 72 Stunden in Kraft
3. Es wurde festgestellt, dass die unteren Gerichte ihre Kompetenzen überschritten haben.


Das Gericht stellt auch für die Zukunft endlich klar:
"At the same time, the Government’s interest in enforcing §2(c), and the Executive’s authority to do so, are undoubtedly
at their peak when there is no tie between the foreign national and the United States. "

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/16pdf/16-1436_l6hc.pdf


Das sehe ich auch so - und doch wissen wir beide, dass es bei der Verordnung Trump´s nicht primär um die Sicherheit der USA geht, sondern um eine Konfrontation gegenüber den genannten Staaten.


Ja, aber wo er recht hat, hat er recht.
Und wieder mal eine Schlappe für alle Total-Gegner. Vielleicht lernst du auch etwas daraus.
Wenigstens hast du dich nicht so wie Willie-Boy verdrückt.

Hi Holzkopf.:-)

Supreme Court Will Hear Travel Ban Case
The Supreme Court announced on Monday that it would decide whether President Trump’s revised travel ban was lawful, setting the stage for a major decision on the scope of presidential power.

The United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit, in Richmond, Va., ruled last month that the limits on travel from the six countries violated the First Amendment’s ban on government establishment of religion.

The United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, in San Francisco, recently blocked both the limits on travel and the suspension of the refugee program. It ruled on statutory rather than constitutional grounds, saying Mr. Trump had exceeded the authority granted him by Congress.

The court agreed to review both cases and said it would hear arguments in October, noting that the government had not asked it to act faster.
The court suggested that the administration could complete its internal reviews over the summer, raising the prospect that the case could be moot by the time it was argued.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/26/us/po...l-ban-case.html

Das heisst dass der SC den Fall erst im Oktober verhandelt. Als Interimsloesung fuer die Zwischenzeit hat der SC entschieden, dass

....that foreigners with ties or relationships in the United States would not be prohibited from entering the country. But, those applying for visas who had never been here, or had no family, business or other ties could be prohibited.

“In practical terms, this means that” the executive order “may not be enforced against foreign nationals who have a credible claim of a bona fide relationship with a person or entity in the United States.”

Also eine Entscheidung, die genau das verhindert was im Januar zu den unglaublichen Vorgaengen an den Flughaefen gefuehrt hat. Alles andere ist ja nicht neues. Und wie vorstehend dargelegt, die constitutionality und authority given by congress wird sowieso erst im October geprueft.
Wenn Trumpsky und seine Nachlaeufer das als Sieg feiern wollen, dann nur zu. .:-)))



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#1733

RE: covfefe!

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 26.06.2017 22:08
von Willie (gelöscht)
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Supreme Court Allows Watered-Down Travel Ban To Take Effect For Now
The ban is one of the president’s most controversial campaign promises.

People from the six countries listed in President Trump’s travel ban ― Libya, Iran, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Sudan, Yemen ― can only travel to the U.S. if they possess a “bona fide” relationship with the U.S.

* The vasty majority of people who would be coming to the U.S. from these countries can easily prove that relationship.

* Neither refugees being resettled in the U.S. nor visa holders will be impacted.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/supr...4b02734df2babaa

Trump's "victory" on travel ban is far from "clear"
President Trump described today's Supreme Court decision on his travel ban as a "clear victory for our national security," but as Justice Clarence Thomas makes clear in his dissenting opinion, Trump's "victory" is muddy at best.

Why this matters: Trump can claim a symbolic win but the reality is that the Supreme Court isn't upholding his travel ban; it's allowing a much softer version of the original ban to stay in place until the Court hears the case properly in a few months.

Instead of halting travel for 90 days from six countries deemed to be terrorist threats — and suspending the U.S. refugee program for 120 days — the Court will let travelers from the banned countries enter the U.S. if they have "bona fide relationships" with people or entities in the U.S. That's a far cry from January, when senior White House officials wanted to bar green card holders and people traveling for medical emergencies.

For instance: Refugee resettlement agencies are already telling reporters that they interpret their relationships with their clients as "bona fide relationships."
https://www.axios.com/trumps-victory-on-...2448655157.html



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#1734

RE: covfefe!

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 27.06.2017 14:29
von Willie (gelöscht)
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U.S. Image Suffers as Publics Around World Question Trump’s Leadership
America still wins praise for its people, culture and civil liberties

Although he has only been in office a few months, Donald Trump’s presidency has had a major impact on how the world sees the United States. Trump and many of his key policies are broadly unpopular around the globe, and ratings for the U.S. have declined steeply in many nations. According to a new Pew Research Center survey spanning 37 nations, a median of just 22% has confidence in Trump to do the right thing when it comes to international affairs. This stands in contrast to the final years of Barack Obama’s presidency, when a median of 64% expressed confidence in Trump’s predecessor to direct America’s role in the world.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2017/06/26/u-s-...mps-leadership/


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#1735

RE: covfefe!

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 27.06.2017 17:33
von Willie (gelöscht)
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Around the world, favorability of the U.S. and confidence in its president decline
Global views of the U.S. and its president have shifted dramatically downward since the end of Barack Obama’s presidency and the start of Donald Trump’s, and they are now at similar levels to ratings from the George W. Bush era, according to a new Pew Research Center report that examines attitudes in 37 countries.

1. Mexico and Canada have lost confidence in the U.S. president.
2. In Western European countries, confidence in the U.S. president has declined sharply.
3. Russia and Israel have gained confidence in the U.S. president.
4. Countries in the Middle East continue to have low favorability ratings for the U.S.
5. Japan and South Korea have sharply lower confidence in the U.S. president, but majorities remain favorable toward U.S. overall.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/201...sident-decline/


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#1736

RE: covfefe!

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 27.06.2017 20:16
von mbockstette | 12.543 Beiträge

Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #1703
Russian Hackers Targeted 21 States During Election, Official Says
Arizona and Illinois last year confirmed that hackers had targeted their voter registration systems.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/russ...kushpmg00000009


OBAMA ORDERED 'CYBERBOMBS' IN RESPONSE TO RUSSIAN HACKING: REPORT

Former President Barack Obama ordered a secret program to plant “cyberbombs” in Russia’s technological infrastructure following Russian interference in the U.S. presidential election, The Washington Post reported Friday.

The effort involves getting “implants” into key Russian networks that are determined to be “important to the adversary and that would cause them pain and discomfort if they were disrupted,” a former U.S. official told the Post. The National Security Agency, the CIA and U.S. Cyber Command are involved in the project.

The previously unreported program, developed by the NSA, can be triggered remotely as retaliation to future Russian cyberattacks. To stop the long-term development of the program, the Trump administration would have to issue a countermanding order. Anonymous officials familiar with the measure told the Post they had not seen indication that Trump has ordered it stopped.

http://www.newsweek.com/obama-ordered-cy...g-report-628597


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#1737

RE: covfefe!

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 27.06.2017 20:16
von mbockstette | 12.543 Beiträge

Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #1703
Russian Hackers Targeted 21 States During Election, Official Says
Arizona and Illinois last year confirmed that hackers had targeted their voter registration systems.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/russ...kushpmg00000009


OBAMA ORDERED 'CYBERBOMBS' IN RESPONSE TO RUSSIAN HACKING: REPORT

Former President Barack Obama ordered a secret program to plant “cyberbombs” in Russia’s technological infrastructure following Russian interference in the U.S. presidential election, The Washington Post reported Friday.

The effort involves getting “implants” into key Russian networks that are determined to be “important to the adversary and that would cause them pain and discomfort if they were disrupted,” a former U.S. official told the Post. The National Security Agency, the CIA and U.S. Cyber Command are involved in the project.

The previously unreported program, developed by the NSA, can be triggered remotely as retaliation to future Russian cyberattacks. To stop the long-term development of the program, the Trump administration would have to issue a countermanding order. Anonymous officials familiar with the measure told the Post they had not seen indication that Trump has ordered it stopped.

http://www.newsweek.com/obama-ordered-cy...g-report-628597


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#1738

RE: covfefe!

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 28.06.2017 16:23
von Willie (gelöscht)
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German public confidence in US has plunged since Trump took office
No other major US ally has seen public confidence in the American president drop as significantly as Germany since Donald Trump took over in the White House in January.
German public confidence in the US president has dropped 75 percentage points in a year, a new survey by the Pew Research Center shows.

During Barack Obama’s final year in charge, German public confidence in the US President stood at 86 percent. But since Trump has taken over that figure has fallen to 11 percent, beating even the low of 14 percent during George W. Bush’s final year in power.
https://www.thelocal.de/20170627/trump-g...-us-has-plunged


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#1739

RE: covfefe!

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 28.06.2017 18:12
von Indo_HS | 2.708 Beiträge

"Das Ansehen der USA hat sich massiv verschlechtert" ...

<<TRUMP-REGIERUNG: Ansehensverlust der USA durch zwei Zahlen besonders deutlich>>
Von Ansgar Graw | Stand: 27.06.2017

"Der US-Präsident verspielt das Image seiner Nation. Eine Umfrage in 37 Staaten offenbart, dass die Supermacht fast überall massiv an Ansehen verliert. Nur in zwei Ländern kommen die USA unter Trump besser weg als unter Obama."
https://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article16...s-deutlich.html



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#1740

RE: covfefe!

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 29.06.2017 15:56
von Willie (gelöscht)
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Trump’s Obama Obsession
Donald Trump has a thing about Barack Obama. Trump is obsessed with Obama. Obama haunts Trump’s dreams. One of Trump’s primary motivators is the absolute erasure of Obama — were it possible — not only from the political landscape but also from the history books.

Trump is president because of Obama, or more precisely, because of his hostility to Obama. Trump came onto the political scene by attacking Obama.
Trump has questioned not only Obama’s birthplace but also his academic and literary pedigree. He was head cheerleader of the racial “birther” lie and also cast doubt on whether Obama attended the schools he attended or even whether he wrote his acclaimed books.
Trump has lied often about Obama: saying his inauguration crowd size exceeded Obama’s, saying that Obama tapped his phones and, just this week, saying that Obama colluded with the Russians.

Trump wants to be Obama — held in high esteem. But, alas, Trump is Trump, and that is now and has always been trashy. Trump accrued financial wealth, but he never accrued cultural capital, at least not among the people from whom he most wanted it.
Therefore, Trump is constantly whining about not being sufficiently applauded, commended, thanked, liked. His emotional injury is measured in his mind against Obama. How could Obama have been so celebrated while he is so reviled?

The whole world seemed to love Obama — and by extension, held America in high regard — but the world loathes Trump. ...

...For Trump, even plans to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act aren’t so much about creating better policy as they are about dismantling Obama’s legacy. The problem with Obamacare isn’t that it hasn’t borne fruit, but rather that it bears Obama’s name.
For Trump, the mark of being a successful president is the degree to which he can expunge Obama’s presidency.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/29/opini...-obsession.html


Trash will always be trash. Trump is trash. He will never ever be anything else. Least of all having the statue of an Obama.
Auch alles Gejohle seiner Holzkopfgefolgschaft wird daran nichts aendern koennen. Ganz im Gegenteil. Je laenger sie ihre roten Aersche zeigen, um so schlechter kommen sie im Kontrast zu Obama's Leistungen weg.


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#1741

RE: covfefe!

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 30.06.2017 22:45
von Willie (gelöscht)
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Morning Joe hosts say Trump tried to blackmail them with National Enquirer hit-piece
Top White House aides promised the story would go away if they apologized to the President.
https://thinkprogress.org/morning-joe-ho...ce-d7bf3178fe3d

Kushner told 'Morning Joe' hosts to apologize to Trump or tabloid story would run: report
President Trump's son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, told "Morning Joe" hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski they would need to apologize to Trump in order to avoid the National Enquirer publishing a story about their relationship, New York Magazine reported Friday.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrati...r-tabloid-story

Trump and His Aides Might Have Broken the Law With “Morning Joe” Threats
Several lawyers say there’s a strong case the White House committed extortion.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017...ng-joe-threats/

Jetzt auch noch Erpressungsversuche. Das sieht immer mehr nach einer crime family aus - mit einem Nero/Caligula an der Spitze. Beschaemend fuer die USA.
Und Putin lacht sich krank.



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#1742

RE: covfefe!

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 30.06.2017 22:48
von Willie (gelöscht)
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Ein ehemaliger Republikanischer Kongressmann:

https://www.facebook.com/NowThisPolitics...08362775861873/


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#1743

RE: covfefe!

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 01.07.2017 11:44
von Maga-neu | 35.493 Beiträge

Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #1741
Morning Joe hosts say Trump tried to blackmail them with National Enquirer hit-piece
Top White House aides promised the story would go away if they apologized to the President.
https://thinkprogress.org/morning-joe-ho...ce-d7bf3178fe3d

Kushner told 'Morning Joe' hosts to apologize to Trump or tabloid story would run: report
President Trump's son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, told "Morning Joe" hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski they would need to apologize to Trump in order to avoid the National Enquirer publishing a story about their relationship, New York Magazine reported Friday.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrati...r-tabloid-story

Trump and His Aides Might Have Broken the Law With “Morning Joe” Threats
Several lawyers say there’s a strong case the White House committed extortion.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017...ng-joe-threats/

Jetzt auch noch Erpressungsversuche. Das sieht immer mehr nach einer crime family aus - mit einem Nero/Caligula an der Spitze. Beschaemend fuer die USA.
Und Putin lacht sich krank.


Caligula, Nero - kleiner geht's bei Trump wohl nicht. Allerdings war die Idee Caligulas, sein Pferd Incitatus zum Konsul zu machen, keine so schlechte. Lieber ein Pferd als Konsul denn Elizabeth "Pocahontas" Warren als Senatorin. :-)



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#1744

RE: covfefe!

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 01.07.2017 11:46
von Maga-neu | 35.493 Beiträge

Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #1740
Trump’s Obama Obsession
Donald Trump has a thing about Barack Obama. Trump is obsessed with Obama. Obama haunts Trump’s dreams. One of Trump’s primary motivators is the absolute erasure of Obama — were it possible — not only from the political landscape but also from the history books.

Trump is president because of Obama, or more precisely, because of his hostility to Obama. Trump came onto the political scene by attacking Obama.
Trump has questioned not only Obama’s birthplace but also his academic and literary pedigree. He was head cheerleader of the racial “birther” lie and also cast doubt on whether Obama attended the schools he attended or even whether he wrote his acclaimed books.
Trump has lied often about Obama: saying his inauguration crowd size exceeded Obama’s, saying that Obama tapped his phones and, just this week, saying that Obama colluded with the Russians.

Trump wants to be Obama — held in high esteem. But, alas, Trump is Trump, and that is now and has always been trashy. Trump accrued financial wealth, but he never accrued cultural capital, at least not among the people from whom he most wanted it.
Therefore, Trump is constantly whining about not being sufficiently applauded, commended, thanked, liked. His emotional injury is measured in his mind against Obama. How could Obama have been so celebrated while he is so reviled?

The whole world seemed to love Obama — and by extension, held America in high regard — but the world loathes Trump. ...

...For Trump, even plans to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act aren’t so much about creating better policy as they are about dismantling Obama’s legacy. The problem with Obamacare isn’t that it hasn’t borne fruit, but rather that it bears Obama’s name.
For Trump, the mark of being a successful president is the degree to which he can expunge Obama’s presidency.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/29/opini...-obsession.html


Trash will always be trash. Trump is trash. He will never ever be anything else. Least of all having the statue of an Obama.
Auch alles Gejohle seiner Holzkopfgefolgschaft wird daran nichts aendern koennen. Ganz im Gegenteil. Je laenger sie ihre roten Aersche zeigen, um so schlechter kommen sie im Kontrast zu Obama's Leistungen weg.

Welche Leistungen? Das Gerede von "yes, we can"? Ja, damit hat er eine ganze Nation (oder fast eine ganze) eingesülzt.


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#1745

RE: covfefe!

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 01.07.2017 13:37
von mbockstette | 12.543 Beiträge

Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #1744
Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #1740

Trash will always be trash. Trump is trash. He will never ever be anything else. Least of all having the statue of an Obama.
Auch alles Gejohle seiner Holzkopfgefolgschaft wird daran nichts aendern koennen. Ganz im Gegenteil. Je laenger sie ihre roten Aersche zeigen, um so schlechter kommen sie im Kontrast zu Obama's Leistungen weg.



Welche Leistungen? Das Gerede von "yes, we can"? Ja, damit hat er eine ganze Nation (oder fast eine ganze) eingesülzt.



Völlig unwürdiger ahistorischer Quatsch!

The Obama years: timeline of a presidency

In a turbulent eight years, Barack Obama faced the biggest economic crisis since the 1930s

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017...of-a-presidency


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#1746

RE: covfefe!

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 01.07.2017 15:23
von Maga-neu | 35.493 Beiträge

Zitat von mbockstette im Beitrag #1745
Völlig unwürdiger ahistorischer Quatsch!



Ich sehe, du bist dir treu geblieben. :-)


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#1747

RE: covfefe!

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 03.07.2017 00:21
von Indo_HS | 2.708 Beiträge

Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #1744
Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #1740
Trump’s Obama Obsession
Donald Trump has a thing about Barack Obama. Trump is obsessed with Obama. Obama haunts Trump’s dreams. One of Trump’s primary motivators is the absolute erasure of Obama — were it possible — not only from the political landscape but also from the history books.

Trump is president because of Obama, or more precisely, because of his hostility to Obama. Trump came onto the political scene by attacking Obama.
Trump has questioned not only Obama’s birthplace but also his academic and literary pedigree. He was head cheerleader of the racial “birther” lie and also cast doubt on whether Obama attended the schools he attended or even whether he wrote his acclaimed books.
Trump has lied often about Obama: saying his inauguration crowd size exceeded Obama’s, saying that Obama tapped his phones and, just this week, saying that Obama colluded with the Russians.

Trump wants to be Obama — held in high esteem. But, alas, Trump is Trump, and that is now and has always been trashy. Trump accrued financial wealth, but he never accrued cultural capital, at least not among the people from whom he most wanted it.
Therefore, Trump is constantly whining about not being sufficiently applauded, commended, thanked, liked. His emotional injury is measured in his mind against Obama. How could Obama have been so celebrated while he is so reviled?

The whole world seemed to love Obama — and by extension, held America in high regard — but the world loathes Trump. ...

...For Trump, even plans to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act aren’t so much about creating better policy as they are about dismantling Obama’s legacy. The problem with Obamacare isn’t that it hasn’t borne fruit, but rather that it bears Obama’s name.
For Trump, the mark of being a successful president is the degree to which he can expunge Obama’s presidency.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/29/opini...-obsession.html


Trash will always be trash. Trump is trash. He will never ever be anything else. Least of all having the statue of an Obama.
Auch alles Gejohle seiner Holzkopfgefolgschaft wird daran nichts aendern koennen. Ganz im Gegenteil. Je laenger sie ihre roten Aersche zeigen, um so schlechter kommen sie im Kontrast zu Obama's Leistungen weg.

Welche Leistungen? Das Gerede von "yes, we can"? Ja, damit hat er eine ganze Nation (oder fast eine ganze) eingesülzt.


Wie ich sehe, lässt deine Sachlichkeit bezüglich Trump vs. Obama noch immer leider sehr zu wünschen übrig ...!


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#1748

RE: covfefe!

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 03.07.2017 00:53
von Maga-neu | 35.493 Beiträge

Zitat von Indo_HS im Beitrag #1747
Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #1744
Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #1740
Trump’s Obama Obsession
Donald Trump has a thing about Barack Obama. Trump is obsessed with Obama. Obama haunts Trump’s dreams. One of Trump’s primary motivators is the absolute erasure of Obama — were it possible — not only from the political landscape but also from the history books.

Trump is president because of Obama, or more precisely, because of his hostility to Obama. Trump came onto the political scene by attacking Obama.
Trump has questioned not only Obama’s birthplace but also his academic and literary pedigree. He was head cheerleader of the racial “birther” lie and also cast doubt on whether Obama attended the schools he attended or even whether he wrote his acclaimed books.
Trump has lied often about Obama: saying his inauguration crowd size exceeded Obama’s, saying that Obama tapped his phones and, just this week, saying that Obama colluded with the Russians.

Trump wants to be Obama — held in high esteem. But, alas, Trump is Trump, and that is now and has always been trashy. Trump accrued financial wealth, but he never accrued cultural capital, at least not among the people from whom he most wanted it.
Therefore, Trump is constantly whining about not being sufficiently applauded, commended, thanked, liked. His emotional injury is measured in his mind against Obama. How could Obama have been so celebrated while he is so reviled?

The whole world seemed to love Obama — and by extension, held America in high regard — but the world loathes Trump. ...

...For Trump, even plans to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act aren’t so much about creating better policy as they are about dismantling Obama’s legacy. The problem with Obamacare isn’t that it hasn’t borne fruit, but rather that it bears Obama’s name.
For Trump, the mark of being a successful president is the degree to which he can expunge Obama’s presidency.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/29/opini...-obsession.html


Trash will always be trash. Trump is trash. He will never ever be anything else. Least of all having the statue of an Obama.
Auch alles Gejohle seiner Holzkopfgefolgschaft wird daran nichts aendern koennen. Ganz im Gegenteil. Je laenger sie ihre roten Aersche zeigen, um so schlechter kommen sie im Kontrast zu Obama's Leistungen weg.

Welche Leistungen? Das Gerede von "yes, we can"? Ja, damit hat er eine ganze Nation (oder fast eine ganze) eingesülzt.


Wie ich sehe, lässt deine Sachlichkeit bezüglich Trump vs. Obama noch immer leider sehr zu wünschen übrig ...!

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/why-...cy-failed-19016

"During the Obama expansion, the number of people on food stamps has grown substantially"...

Für eine Beurteilung der Trump-Präsidentschaft ist es zu früh. Ich denke, es gibt drei Arten von Amerikanern, diejenigen, die für Trump sind, egal, was er tut, diejenigen, die gegen ihn sind, egal, was er tut. Und dann gibt es die dritte Art, die über seine Präsidentschaft und Wiederwahl entscheiden wird: Diejenigen, denen es egal ist, ob er dumme Tweets gegen CNN abschickt, ob er seine Gegner anpöpelt, die ihm aber nicht verzeihen werden, wenn er keine Jobs schafft und das Wirtschaftswachstum nicht ankurbelt. Wenn ihm das gelingt, kann er pöbeln und schreien soviel er will, und seine Gegner auch. Er wird dann Präsident für die nächsten acht Jahre sein...


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#1749

RE: covfefe!

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 03.07.2017 10:37
von Indo_HS | 2.708 Beiträge

@ Maga

Unabhängig der Person und seiner Parteizugehörigkeit kann es einfach nicht angehen oder darf gar - wie du das machst - i g n o r i e r t werden, dass ein Präsident, erst recht der Präsident einer einflußreichen Weltmacht wie die USA, sich beim Twittern oder bei sonst einer Beschäftigung infantil, narzistisch, paranoid, zu leicht erregbar und alles in allem unzurechnungsfähig, seines Amtes unwürdig und dem Rufe seines Landes betreffend schädlich verhält. Zurecht haben zahlreiche namhafte US-Politker, auch aus der eigenen Partei, US-Experten, Ex-Präsidentenberater und Top-Journalisten das bereits mehrfach kritisiert und auf das schlechte Licht, die solche <<unamerikanische>> Untaten auf das Präsidentenamt werfen, und auf die negativen Zeichen und Botschaften hingeweisen, die ein Präsident damit Gegnern und Verbündeten auf der ganze Welt parmanent signalisiert.

Trumps Twitter-Wahn: <<Jeder andere würde dafür gefeuert>>
http://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/ausla...itter-wahn.html

Nicht umsonst steht es um Trumps Umfragewerte so schlecht, wie nie zuvor.

<<Trump disapproval rating hits new high in daily Gallup poll>>
Gallup's daily tracking poll shows disapproval of Trump's job at 60 percent, a new high.
Democrats and Republicans remain polarized in their view of the president, while independents also approve of Trump's job at a low level.
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/13/trump-dis...allup-poll.html


Zu Obama:
Lassen wir doch besser mal alle Fakten sprechen.

<<Obama’s Numbers October 2016 Update>>
Our last update on statistical indicators of the Obama presidency before his successor is elected.

"Since President Barack Obama first took office:
+ The economy has added nearly 10.7 million jobs.
+ Median household income has gone up $1,140, or 2 percent.
+ The buying power of the average worker’s weekly paycheck is up 4.2 percent.
+ Median sales prices of existing single-family homes are up 23 percent.
+ The unemployment rate has dropped well below the historical norm; job openings are at a 15-year high.
+ Corporate profits and stock prices have both soared to record highs.
+ The number of people lacking health insurance has gone down by 16.5 million.
+ The murder rate is down nearly 5 percent, despite an increase in 2015.
+ The number of unauthorized immigrants estimated to be living in the U.S. is down, according to demographers.
+ Wind and solar power have quadrupled; coal production has dropped 36 percent; carbon emissions have gone down 12 percent.
- However, the poverty rate is still 0.3 percentage points higher, and the number of Americans on food stamps is up nearly 36 percent.
- Federal debt has more than doubled, and annual federal deficits, after shrinking, are again on the rise.
- The home ownership rate has dropped to the lowest point in more than 50 years.
+/- Handgun production has more than doubled. "
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/10/obamas-...er-2016-update/

Man darf gespannt sein wieviel positive Punkte die Trump-Admin während ihrer Amtszeit einheimsen wird können ...
Bisher sieht es nicht einmal nach einem einzigen aus.



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#1750

RE: covfefe!

in Redakteure/Politiker/Parteien 03.07.2017 11:02
von Maga-neu | 35.493 Beiträge

Zitat von Indo_HS im Beitrag #1749
@ Maga

Unabhängig der Person und seiner Parteizugehörigkeit kann es einfach nicht angehen oder darf gar - wie du das machst - i g n o r i e r t werden, dass ein Präsident, erst recht der Präsident einer einflußreichen Weltmacht wie die USA, sich beim Twittern oder bei sonst einer Beschäftigung infantil, narzistisch, paranoid, zu leicht erregbar und alles in allem unzurechnungsfähig, seines Amtes unwürdig und dem Rufe seines Landes betreffend schädlich verhält. Zurecht haben zahlreiche namhafte US-Politker, auch aus der eigenen Partei, US-Experten, Ex-Präsidentenberater und Top-Journalisten das bereits mehrfach kritisiert und auf das schlechte Licht, die solche <<unamerikanische>> Untaten auf das Präsidentenamt werfen, und auf die negativen Zeichen und Botschaften hingeweisen, die ein Präsident damit Gegnern und Verbündeten auf der ganze Welt parmanent signalisiert.

Trumps Twitter-Wahn: <<Jeder andere würde dafür gefeuert>>
http://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/ausla...itter-wahn.html

Nicht umsonst steht es um Trumps Umfragewerte so schlecht, wie nie zuvor.

<<Trump disapproval rating hits new high in daily Gallup poll>>
Gallup's daily tracking poll shows disapproval of Trump's job at 60 percent, a new high.
Democrats and Republicans remain polarized in their view of the president, while independents also approve of Trump's job at a low level.
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/13/trump-dis...allup-poll.html


Zu Obama:
Lassen wir doch besser mal alle Fakten sprechen.

<<Obama’s Numbers October 2016 Update>>
Our last update on statistical indicators of the Obama presidency before his successor is elected.

"Since President Barack Obama first took office:
+ The economy has added nearly 10.7 million jobs.
+ Median household income has gone up $1,140, or 2 percent.
+ The buying power of the average worker’s weekly paycheck is up 4.2 percent.
+ Median sales prices of existing single-family homes are up 23 percent.
+ The unemployment rate has dropped well below the historical norm; job openings are at a 15-year high.
+ Corporate profits and stock prices have both soared to record highs.
+ The number of people lacking health insurance has gone down by 16.5 million.
+ The murder rate is down nearly 5 percent, despite an increase in 2015.
+ The number of unauthorized immigrants estimated to be living in the U.S. is down, according to demographers.
+ Wind and solar power have quadrupled; coal production has dropped 36 percent; carbon emissions have gone down 12 percent.
- However, the poverty rate is still 0.3 percentage points higher, and the number of Americans on food stamps is up nearly 36 percent.
- Federal debt has more than doubled, and annual federal deficits, after shrinking, are again on the rise.
- The home ownership rate has dropped to the lowest point in more than 50 years.
+/- Handgun production has more than doubled. "
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/10/obamas-...er-2016-update/

Man darf gespannt sein wieviel positive Punkte die Trump-Admin während ihrer Amtszeit einheimsen wird können ...
Bisher sieht es nicht einmal nach einem einzigen aus.


Indo, Trump ist trotz (oder vielleicht wegen?) seiner verbalen Ausfälle ins Amt gewählt worden. Er ist die Inkarnation des Wutbürgers. Seine Wähler unterstützen also diese, von mir aus vulgäre Art. Oder sie ist ihnen egal. Daran wird Trump, ob es uns gefällt oder nicht, nicht gemessen werden. An der Frage, ob er die Wirtschaft ankurbel und Jobs schafft, hingegen schon. Einem vulgären Präsidenten wird der Wähler verzeihen, einem erfolglosen nicht.

Ob er Erfolg hat, steht in den Sternen.


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